Hell from Wexford where we started a Frederick Douglass Festival in 2019 to remember his visit for 2 nights in 1845. good to be here

Cristine breaking up maybe if all mute microphones

Did Douglass comment about Home Rule when he was in Ireland in 1886/87?

Hi Jade

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for all the organizers: is your work based entirely on the island, or do you see possibilities for international connections, such as with #BLM in the states? and have you thought about the need for the work you're doing in/with Irish America? I think it's a very different situation here, the intersection of black-and-Irish(American)

I've read that there's a new documentary about Phil Lynott that will be released on Oct. 23. His life story is fascinating as someone who was Black and Irish

As a professor of Foundations of Education in America all my students, regardless of race, learned about the history of education including black trailblazers in the field. All of my students would have learned about Frederick Douglass. Unfortunately, we don't bother to teach the history of education much anymore. It is seen as peripheral or of no consequence to the training of teachers. Very sad.

Fintan O Toole at the Irish Famine Summer School said The Famine reminds us of the terrible truth that our humanity isn’t something we own ourselves, it is something we depend on each other for. This is so true of the Famine and abolition movement in the 19 th Century and in BLM and many other movements today.

can you please provide link to Black & Irish’s page on this chat?

https://www.empwr.ie/post/black-and-irish-the-instagram-highlighting-experiences-of-growing-up-black-in-ireland

https://www.instagram.com/black_andirish/?hl=en

We're also on facebook

thank you femi, boni and tobi

thanks!

https://www.facebook.com/BlackandIrish/

Hi Christine really appreciate the work you have done. Have you suggested to the Department of education to get the black abolitionist to be included into the Irish Secondary History curricula?

The difference between how well received Douglass was in 1847 and the current Black and Irish experience/need for refocus is fascinating.

^^^ agreed!

My black husband was brought up in segregated Alabama and learned about Frederick Douglass through his brother who was named after him. He understands the importance of role models!

just a comment: yes boni, it's education itself which is also a social reality as you say -- and this is the problem we have here in the states between black and irish communities, a great lack of knowledge one to the other (and no understanding at all of the life of black-and-irish here)

Every teacher in Kentucky would have learned about Frederick Douglass. The History of Education and Educators was part of their core curriculum.

yes there is a lot in our experience, here in the states that should unite black and irish American communities but generally speaking does not

I agree with what you're saying Maureen.

the plaque is a great idea!

Don, could you say again what building is now at the site of the Douglas/O’Connell meeting?

just a shout out to femi, boni and tobi: you're doing GREAT work, keep going, we're here in support of you, and we wish you all the very best with your work and in your futures as activists -- you are the future of Ireland and of the world and I applaud you! ~Maureen ruprecht fadem (and i'll be in touch with you to talk about possibilities)

thank you!

thank you everyone!!!

Thanks for the programme.

Thanks for a great program.